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03/07/2009 Andy Murray needs to learn some manners- wait and walk off the court with you opponentwhen beaten. He does himself no favours in the popularity stakes.

03/07/2009 USA Youth Champs

03/07/2009 Asian Youth Games: China dominate track and field

02/07/2009 It's time this site moved on- I have been running it on my own for 10 years now, and I think I am becoming a bit stale. So I a suggesting a radical change- I will change the site to a CMS site(Joomla) where others can contribute and make the site more dynamic and less single minded. So I would like people to contact me who would be interested in adding articles, add results and develop the site into a exciting contribution to athletics,

If you want to see sort of how it works I am currently developing a CMS site at Laugharne- have a look at you will see how it could work.

I am sure this is the way forward- not a Forum- we have that- but a dynamic athletics site that can reflect the views and news of several people, not just me. If you are interested let me know, I think it would be a major development in terms of providing coverage of the athletics scene. Its sort of fun, well obviously I enjoy it- and we are archived by the Britih Library, so posterity beckons.

I forgot how good this song was "Shaggy -It Wasn't me" I do love music as you will all have gathered over the years. And "feel the rush" a celebration of sport .

30/06/2009 Been busy doing the Welsh Schools Cup and Plate programme- the only thing I type up, and I must say I admire those who do this sort of thing regularly- dealing with PE teachers is a some-times frustrating procedure, but it is at the printers and hopefully not too many typo's- but lets hope the kids have a good competition.

So out of touch but see that the English Team for the European Youth has been announced- sorry correction there are a few outside of England included. It seems a huge shame that Europe- well I think probably UKA, will not accept at a Youth Level, that England , Wales and Scotland should compete as Nations- that would help develop the Sport. Left out N.I because many will run for Ireland under the sports agreement between the 2 Nations.

I am , as you will have gathered not a huge fan of the GB concept-it's sits uneasy within the UK political divide of individual Nations. Particularly as the GB Team is using it as a development for England athletes- there are better Youth athletes not selected, because they are seen as promising at a higher level-and have therefore not been been selected.So England are picking and choosing athletes, and the other regions within UK are struggling to get representation- so David Guest and Dewi Griffith's (Wales) have done very well- but so they should -they are talented and very committed.

30/06/2009 Just got this Newsletter- Wrexham-some interesting thoughts.

25/06/2009 I am still in shock about Comedy Charles plans for the UK Athletics team to train overseas. A small poll of 4 are equally spitting blood. I have emailed the Lib Dems asking for this to be raised in the House. It is totally unacceptable- our Home Team should train at Home- there will be media wherever they go- he hopes- though not quite sure who will be that interested world wide in the GB Athltics team. What the hell is the point of having the olympics at Home, might of well as let the French win- we would be £10bn better off and they could train overseas from the event-in the UK. Or is he worried about the weather. Apparently worried they will slope off to see mummy or their friends- get a grip Charles ,if they are not professional and keen enough to do well, don't select them.

Strange people the Dutch- one of my close friends is also Dutch.

Where are they going- hope not Holland.

25/06/2009 I have just read a report that the GB Team for 2012 will train overseas to avoid Media intrusion . This is obviously complete madness, a waste of money, and sums up the attitude of the new Coaching staff who still seem to think money grows on trees. I hope some-one in Government explains to them if they do not prepare for the Games in the UK, they can forget state funding.

"BRITISH athletes have snubbed the 2012 Olympic pre-games training camp in Aldershot in favour of preparing abroad.The blow to the town was delivered by UK Athletics head coach Charles van Commenee, who believes the athletes should complete their final preparations away from media intrusion and the pressures of everyday home life, which could distract them."

24/06/2009 The Athletics Performance Industry has got the "earn money guys" involved- subscribe to our site to get rankings etc, D'ont do it all the info is out there for free. Your choice.

24/06/2009 "RE Blackheath and Bromley "Im the Cardiff AC british league team manager, and i thought i had better let you know that your post on your home page regarding the BAL at bromley, featuring christian malcolm, thie, benjamin etc al is false. None of these athletes, unfortunately will be competing.

The honest truth, is that they have all been offered races abroad, cant really blame them, the message i had of them, was if the british league paid the athletes, then we would run there instead of travelling around europe to compete every time.

The other issue is that it clashes with welsh schools, so many of our talented juniors, who have some early exposure to senior competition in british league will miss out on this match too. Its a shame, as the english, scottish and irish schools generally have their champs the following week - so its only the welsh clubs who suffer. This has been the situation for a number of years now - very frustrating. Most of them could probably benefit from higher competition, but you cant argue against an athlete who wants to win a national title, so we encourage them to compete in the welsh schools, to our detriment.

Cardiff AC won the first british league in cardiff, and we hope to build on that in the next match, and hopefully get promoted to div 1 of the british league.

Anyway, just wanted to mention that, just in case anybody does travel on a false premise to watch, doubtful that it would happen, but best be safe and not disappoint anybody.

24/06/2009 " I attended this years North Wales Championships at Deeside, showed my coaching pass but was told coaches had to pay. I have never known this before. There is no charge for coaches to attend the England or Welsh Championships and indeed I can't recollect being asked to pay admission to any meeting in recent years ."

23/06/2009 Wish I lived nearer - this sounds a great meeting and only £1.00 entry-Blackheath and Bromley 4th july-BAl league and they hope to have Christian Malcom, James Thie, Tim Benjamin and more competing.

23/06/2009 BMC do not charge coaches, nor did Mason Trophy. Actually I am not sure many would- lokks like SEAA are the exeption. But if you - as a coach- have been charged for entry, please let me know- we will name and shame, its the only way. So let me know of any events that charge coaches an admission fee. Thanks.

22/06/09 It's a perfect day in Wales- lets forget Cram et al. Interesting question I received "Maybe you've covered this ground before, but, Do athletes sign contracts before they are given lottery or non-private company money? If they do, is there a clause that states if they use drugs etc, they will have to pay back all monies given? Seems like a good idea to me."

My reply, which I think is accurate, but I am sure you will tell me if I am wrong was "I think the answer is No they do not have to re-pay funding, but can be forced to pay back prize money during the period they cheated. Whether a private company would sue them for loss of reputation has not happened, but the legal argument would probably be the athlete fulfilled their contract- I am not aware that Nike have sued Marion Jones for example.Personally I think they should sign a contract. and if they cheat re-pay the funding they have received."

Seems as you say pretty simple, but for some reason UKA do not have this clause to my knowledge. As you know at every Entry for a Champs you are made aware you agree that you have not used illegal drugs.

Its a day of questions "Attended the SEAA Champs this weekend to support one of our athletes competing...Travelled 400 miles over the weekend to Watford and back both days. On Saturday i see England Athletics present a cheque for £70,000 to the SEAA Competitions Ltd towards competition. Great....Yet as a volunteer coach I had to pay to get into the championships. We coaches give up a large amount of time and spend a lot on travel to support our athletes. Yet the sport does not help us. Perhaps use some of the £70,000 so waive the entry fee for coaches.I think they should support there coaches not put them off.... Without us they would not have any athletes competing."

The two tier structure under UKA/UKSport is crazy. Coaches should attend free- and maybe get paid some pocket money for the hard work they put in. The great and the good should realise this -it's the grass roots that get kids into the sport, give their coaches abreak- a free entry at least.

They do it in Wales, and WAA have no money. I wish UK Sport /BOAwould just let the regions within the unhappy alliance of GB get on with it and compete as Individual Nations. England is so over -funded compared to the regions of Wales,Scotland and N.I.

21/06/2009 Enjoyed the 2nd day and GB did OK, with the team they had- which was under strength due to selection reasons I guess- but some bright moments. Marred again by the whining Cram who cannot let go of his moans about the rule changes, but I thought the changes were OK. No False starts in the sprints that I saw, and the event went well. The BBc were obviously disappointed Phillips did not win- the commentary teams guess that he would go 18+ were wrong- though Edwards obviously realised it was not going to happen.

The thing that did please me is that suddenly Cram et al seemed to agree with the long held view on this site that GB should field a full team at the Olympics ( and I assume Worlds) and that this idea of only focusing on Medal/Final potential athletes was a flawed strategy. Well said this for years, so hopefully UKA and the BOA will realise that as a Nation we want to see Athletes compete in every discipline. Much is said that athletics is not a Team sport, but actually watching and listening to the Athlete's they like competing as a Team- lets hope that this view can continue until 2012 nd that the whole of UKA will get behind a squad to compete for GB- and that all contending for places will support each other. It happens in relay teams, so why not for the individual events. Facts are GB athletes need to encourage each-other if we are to do well in London.

To me its obvious- develop depth in each event and get them working off each other. Other individual sports manage it-like swimming,cycling-so athletics should be able to do the same. Its the Crams and the Coe's who bang on about it being an individual sport.

Chambers did well for his country- Cram sounded less than thrilled at his double. Proves the ability of the man to come into the 200m at shot notice and his commitment to Team GB, despite its rejection of him for relays and Olympics. He has made himself a lot of friends over the w/e.

20/06/2009 The BBC really need to change the Team covering athletics- Cram just whinges on about distance running, changes to the competition rules, that it seems to me actually mean these long races might go a bit quicker, rather than a plod around and sprint over the last 800m. His dislike for Chamber's is apparent- yet happy to cover up Benjamin's breaking of the rules by running out of lane. Sad man. Then as usual , in the events , they manage to get it all wrong in calling where GB athletes will end up. A a pair of clowns, paid by the BBC. I thought the BBC was meant to be unbiased- not Cram. I pay to air my views on this site, Cram is paid and should report, not slag off the Organisers because he does not like what they have done to try and make the sport more interesting to a wider public.

20/06/2009 Well done to the Team management- Rikki Fifton had a niggle, so run him and breaks down- why not replace him- oh, of course they won't let Chambers near the relay Team. Sorry, but this is the sort of rubbish that puts people off competing in Athletics.

20/06/2009 I was bought up to Walk if I knicked a cricket ball and was caught-especially if the Umpire missed it. Steve Backley is correct, Steve Cram is wrong- if you have broken the rules by running out of lane, then it should be admitted, not hoping it will be overlooked. Its called sportsmanship.

20/06/2009 " CECILIA MORRISON blitzed a British middle distance record this week, just a fortnight before celebrating her 69th birthday.

The Guildford-based athlete smashed the previous best 1500m time for the 65-69 group by more than nine seconds in racing to victory at the Southern Counties Veterans Championships.

And her run at Kingston in 5mins 54.6secs came just a month after the retired aromatherapist from Queen Elizabeth Park in Stoughton obliterated the 16-year-old British 3000m standard by an amazing 10 seconds.

19/06/2009 Apart from the huge salaries some are earning, for what appears to be incompetence -or doing a job many would happily do for far less, have we seen any figures on their Pension plans-and to be sure they will have them. What these highly paid people actually think they are doing for the sport is questionable. We have a load of people, probably thousands giving their time for nothing-no money at all. And at the top are people raking off large salaries, claming they are doing something- well they are not. They are just admin people- and should be paid an admin wage. No personal risk, they have developed nothing of value to society- just helping to manage a sport- which is far bigger than them . They may think they are very important, but actually they are nothing without the athletes and the volunteers who make the sport work.

The UK seems to suffer at the moment from a contagious disease where people are over-valuing their worth- and the people who agree the wages are the same group who benefit from that same over-valuation of value. I have no problem with an entrepreneur making a fortune-if they risked all to develop a business fine. But not happy with people taking no financial risk and earning huge sums- and that's just sport administration. Maybe the Police should investigate more abuses than just the low-life MP's.

19/06/2009 Email received "Many governing bodies are sceptical and some downright opposed to the interference of the BOA in essentially coaching and development matters. Head coaches and performance directors feel the BOA should not be directly involved in something that is their responsibility and have serious doubts about the role of Sir Clive Woodward. One of the reasons the BOA are in debt is because of Lord Moynihan's over ambitious and mainly unwanted excursion into areas away from their normal core business.

Another organisation with problems over funding is England Sport. They have recently discovered that as much as £20 million pounds was spent over a period of several years upto 2007 that was never audited and not part of their normal accounts. Former employees as well as their former chairman, Trevor Brooking, will be called in to account for this but it doesn't look too good.

Vast sums of money are being spent on sport but is it providing value for money? These two organisations have large budgets, especially England Athletics. Both have considerable, some would say undue, influence on how sport is run. If it wasn't for London 2012 I am sure budgets would be cut but more importantly the role of the different organisations in sport should be questioned.

We could actually cut budgets and still fund sport adequately if directed in a better way. How can organisations like the BOA and England Athletics be trusted to lead sport when they have these financial irregularities? It's all about power and self interest!"

18/06/2009 Eire European Youth Olympic Team announced

18/06/2009 So the BOA is on the verge of bankruptcy- well they claim the are not but the London organisation Committe have bunged them £2m quid. According to reports they lost £1.3m in 2008. As usual they claim it was just an advance payment an the rest of the claims I don't get- they say it was a Games Year so income was up £10m, so how was losses increased. Apparently they spent £368,000 on consultants- I would love to know who they were ? Sounds like Woodward is spending freely - but no-one seems to know on what.

Questions should be asked therefore, and especially on the competence of Lord Moynihan( who runs the organisation-well is Chairman,). He was outspoken about Dwain Chambers, but seemed to think C.O was OK.

BOA claim "The BOA is not funded or controlled by government, has no political interests and is completely dependent upon commercial sponsorship and fundraising income. The BOA is the strong, independent voice for British Olympic Sport."

So why the LOC loan ?

Given Moynihan's long connections within Governement it would seem strange that he has not had the BOA funded- but their affairs are shrouded in secrecy. Since they claim to have no Government funding you cannot serve a FOI notice on them.

Google Moynihams political history- he has been long involved.

Fair play he was a cox at Moscow Olympic Games for the Great Britain men's rowing VIII winning a silver medal.

Th BOA are like the British Commonwelath Games organisations- full of self importance, and I would remind you all it was the Scottish,English and Welsh CG who caused the Nationality debate.

Well if a loan/payment from LOC is not government funding, then I am stupid. They bleat consistently about their independence and impartial aproach- well some might disagree- Chambers re Oghurboru.

The financial facts seem to suggest that they have a huge overhead which is not matched by income. You will note that if you go to their website they only list 2007 accounts. Now that really shows how straight and honest they are about their fiancial affairs.

16/06/2009 "The talented Ciara Mageean of Lisburn AC has been named as the Crowne Plaza Athlete of the Month for May.This was awarded following Mageean’s terrific performance at the Irish Schools’ Track and Field Championships when she set a new Irish Junior 800m record of 2:05.38, beating none other than her sporting hero, Sonia O’Sullivan’s 1987 record of 2:05.72.As Ciara is only 17, this time also stands as a youth record and puts her on top of the 800m rankings for 2009 and in the top 20 All-time list in the 800m."

16/06/2009 According to UKA Laura Turner came 2nd in 100m- good athlete, but the actual results do not feature her "DKB-ISTAF IAAF Golden League, Berlin, Germany 14 June 2009

In the women’s 100m races, Laura Turner (Harrow AC) finished in second place in 11.46 while Kadi-Ann Thomas (Marshall Milton Keynes) recorded 11.59 in the B Race. In the C Race Emily Freeman (Wakefield Freeman), 11.33 and Ashlee Nelson (City of Stoke) 11.36 both ran lifetime bests. The results are here .Maybe I have misread, but looks like sloppy PR. Mabe it was a different meet- the UKA is the worst site I have ever viewed-all pages flashing about, its hard to find anything .

15/06/2009 One has to feel sorry for WAA- probably the only decent Track event- and the Clock failed- the Mens 200m final. Maybe some other events worth while, but when you have an Olympic runner competing you would hope the timing system would work. Too often in events in Wales it fails,sadly- though normally the trackside clock in the Indoor meetings. Bad luck or bad administration ?

15/06/2009 Congrats to Ashlee Nelson- GB 100m selected at the age of 19. Best of luck, followed her for a few years.

14/06/2009 "American sprinter Sanya Richards ran the fastest women's 400m of the season at the Golden League opener in Berlin in a time of 49.57 seconds." World Champs looking interesting.

14/06/2009 Winners of Welsh U15/17 Champs were given free tickets to Super 8- nice gesture, but mid-week during exams and many were from North Wales.

13/06/2009 Look like the Super 8 had an attendance of about 2.500- not bad if they all paid-and that's a question, how many tickets were freebies?. But it seems that some did not attend due to "Sponsorship". What a load of crap, and I hope that these "Amateurs(sic)" now get kicked off UKA funding. According to the Telegraph "The inaugural Super8 event was marred by a sponsorship row last night following the withdrawal of Kelly Sotherton, Hannah England and Greg Rutherford. "

By sheer coincidence I had dinner with a good friend who works for Nike- we did not discuss athletics, but Nike spend a huge amount sponsoring Sports people. Good for them and maybe the sport. "Sources close to UK Athletics officials labelled the decision of Nike “small-minded” and “appalling”, although an official statement was more diplomatic. "

So we worry about what MP's are getting- well now time we have athletes declare their sponsorship income if they are also being funded by UK Sport-especially if the report above is correct that they will not run if their sponsors are unhappy. This is only fair to the tax payer who has funded( and still is) their development.

Sport and Sponsors have an unholy alliance sometimes, but we cannot have an amateur sport being dictated to by the sponsors- and equally an Amateur sport cannot encourage athletes to get sponsorship and then stop them runnning using logo's. A few years ago my daughter was a kit carrier at an AAA meeting, TV by the BBC. They had to make sure all logo's were masked out of any clothing they wore- OK the BBC have an issue.

But an un-televised meeting in Cardiff, the launch of a new product -the Super 8 concept- and the Sport bodies still manage to fallout with the sponsors of athletes. Small minded, sorry it's the UK Sports bodies who want the cash.

 

 

 

I think we all need to know who is getting what from who- looks like another FOI summons on UK sport- though I am sure they will again claim not their business.

11/06/2009 Olympic champion Christine Ohuruogu won her first 400m race since last September at the Montreuil meeting near Paris. Ohuruogo having won Olympic Gold was 2nd IAAF World Athletics Final and 4th at Golden Grand Prix in China. Dwain Chambers also won- but 10.17 is not going to challenge the World leaders.- and only marginally quicker than Craig Pickering 10.23 in a cold Cardiff Super 8.

11/06/2009 As a parent going through GCE' and A levels, in the middle of Summer sports, maybe the solution is to change the academic Year. So have all the exams in the Spring or Autumn-after all all kids are side tracked when it gets warm(sic) and sunny.The Baccalaureate Year is very different from the UK School Year. For example the exams at Atlantic College,Wales start 4 May: Start of IB exams 21 May: End of IB Exams and end of year for first year students. They then have a few weeks off.

Just a thought, but we expect a lot from kids to both do well academically and succed in sport. And I am sure most parents find one long summer holiday difficult to manage, if like me , both parents work. I would rather see 4 terms with even holiday periods- and the exams in the Winter period.

11/06/2009 All is OK at Man Utd -Gordon Brown has spoken""He's one of the most brilliant players in the world. I think people will be sad that he's lost to the game in England.

"At the same time, I know Sir Alex Ferguson well, and I know he'll have plans that will be rebuilding and renewing his team. And I would expect that Manchester United and English football will emerge not weaker, but emerge in a new way and probably stronger in the long run".

I was worried that Gordon had more important things to do , but he obviously follows Football and "Britain hasTalent" more than worrying about his last few months in Politics and the economy. Gordon, we are not morons, we see your clever little game to become a man of the people. Sadly he has not the smoothness of Billy Liar. Though we still have the chief enforcer in the background, Lord of all he wants. presumable Gordon will lend Man Utd a few Billion if they need it, money is easily come nowadays-just print it or "quantative ease".

Anyway for one last time lets have it for that classic song. Hope I got the right link-Jilted John it was meant to be.

 

10/06/2009 I was planning to go to Cardiff for Super 8, but to be honest the thought of driving 3 hours(90 mins each way)there and back is not appealing and then I will pay a huge sum to watch. I have to work all day,tired at the end of the day (I am now officially old)- now a Saturday PM trip would have been OK.

Hope they have a good crowd, but like everything in athletics seems to work around those in the sport, not the spectators -and I am not sure I mean just the athletes.

09/06/2009 Been emailed a link to David Greene's run.

0906/2009 Re below apparently Championship Bests do not have to have a legal wind- don't ask me why, I don't make the rules. Sounds pretty silly, but there we are.

08/06/2009 David Greene(Wales) ran a good race in the 400mH at the Josef Odlozil Memorial in Prague, running in 48.62s, a Welsh Record, andwell inside the Qualifying Standard for this Summer's World Championships in Berlin.Should be a good race at the Welsh Seniors where he will compete against Matt Elias, who looks like he is coming back into good form after a few years of injury.

08/06/2009 Welsh Age U17/20 attached- but an error I think- Rachel Johncock, U17W100m 11.88 despite a fine run, was wind assisted +2.8 and so not a championship best or age group equal time.- something the results coordinators seemed to have missed in their enthusiasm.

06/06/2009 Seb Coe might think that UK Athletes need to pull their finger out, well England Cricketer's should just not be paid. A pathetic performance, against a team whose only claim to fame is that they have flat wickets- I played for Ajax as an under 9.

05/06/2009 Seventeen year old Carmarthen Harrier Dewi Griffiths ran the 10,000 metres race in Neath on Wednesday 3 June in 30.30.2, which was almost ten seconds inside the qualification time for consideration for the GB and NI junior team to compete in this year’s European championships

04/06/2009 Sport has always said it is above politics and therefore politics should not affect Games like the Olympics- so any country should not be blocked to compete.

That's bollocks in my Opinion. China should never have been given the Olympic Games- so they sort of let journalists in, but have clamped down again remember "In Beijing, police sealed off Tiananmen Square for the anniversary with foreign journalists barred from the area." So it really worked giving them the Games. The totalitarian Government don't give a toss. North Korea, cosy friends of China care less either.

Personally I would also ban Israel as well for a while until it wakes up and realise that they are the invaders of Palestine and should just back off on developing new settlements in the Holy Land.

If the Olympic's core statement is " "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph, but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered, but to have fought well." then that's the root of the problem.

Can't find that in their current statement but there is this clause 4 "4. to cooperate with the competent public or private organisation's and authorities in the endeavour to place sport at the service of humanity and thereby to promote peace;"

Now that's the clause we need examining-and the one that could be used to prevent Countries competing.

Blocking South Africa from competing in the 1980's may be helped with the radical changes that happened in tha country.

Sport can help, but not by being wet.

04/06/2009 How many WR holders were not Drug tested- or indeed have all European and GB Record Holders all been tested at the time of the record. Interesting question- any-one have the answer ?

04/06/2009 Email received"I have to partly disagree with European Athletics! The point to point issue is relevant and prevents his performance being recognised a European record/best performance. Drug testing as a mandatory part of certifying a record was only introduced in the late 80's so Nick Rose was probably not tested after his run.

It is comparitively recent for road performances to be ratified as records - they were always regarded as best performances because of the variety of courses. They now have to pass stringent measurement checks, limited rise and fall and an out and back course. Plus they have to have drug testing for European and World records (and possibly British records). None of these requirements were in place for Nick Rose's race and so it is just a best performance."

So if above is the case was Mo Farah Dope tested after his run and did it comply with all the checks ?

04/06/2009 More re Nick Rose "it doesnt have anything to do with the point to point issue. There are many differenct criteria that must be adhered to for performances to be ratified as records. In this case road records (previously best performances) are only just being checked against these from decades past. The reason that the performance by Nick Rose has not been ratified is that there was no drug testing. Officially it is not an European Record! We are aware that the IAAF lists it as a European record but in reality it is only a best performance and therefore GB are probably adhering to the same criteria for a record!".

Thanks to European Athletics, who are always helpful. Their site is a mine of Information and nEws, well worth checking out.

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31/05/2009 So a U turn on the Youth Elite Athlete concept it seems-lets hope it happens. The next stage is that all involved in the sport should demand that the various regional bodies- UK Athletics, England Athletics, Scottish, Welsh Athletics and Northern Ireland publish minutes of Board meetings and subcommittee meetings. At the moment they are exempt from FOI enquiries, though I have raised this issue with the FOI office. They will lose there position, because they are exempt by oversight, not for a purpose. So they might as well publish now, because otherwise they will face a series of FOI enquiries that might be more embarrassing.

So if they have nothing to hide, which I am sure they do not have, publish now or be damned. They must all realise that they are predominately funded by the UK Tax payer (the Organisation's that is) and are therefore accountable to the Members and Tax payer. I would suggest any one interested in the way the Sport administration works in the UK lobbies their Club reps to demand that all minutes of any Board or Committee meeting are published within 14 days of the meeting . All clubs should do the same. We need greater transparency in the sport.

30/05/2009 Email received from Nick Rose " Hi Charles,
from what i understand, for record purposes, the race must start and finish within so many metres and as New Orleans was point to point it is not fit for record purposes. However this is only my understanding.
Regards,
Nick Rose
"

I think that probably answers the question in words I can understand.

30/05/2009 One of the Largest School meets in the USA is underway.

30/05/2008 Email received"The job specification for the post of Head Coach is just what we need and represents an about turn by UKA. Welsh Athletics, perhaps with some reluctance, have followed the UKA one stop plan for the past 3 years and naively went down a performance management route that ignored coaching as an essential part of the development of our sport. Niels de Vos has said he has had an "Ear bending" over the issue of coaching as have Matt Newman and others within Welsh Athletics. Finally, we may get the Head Coach and coaching policies that our sport in Wales is desperate for - or will we?

I hope everything will work out and we get the right person but I hear one of the reasons it has been re-advertised is because UKA have asked for the appointment to be delayed. With a decision being made soon about reducing the number of HiPACs resulting in a loss of staff it maybe that they want to offer staff the chance to apply for the Head Coach position in Wales.

My main concern is not that a former member of the UKA staff may not be a good appointment but that UKA may wield a little too much influence on who is appointed. Will this be a Welsh Athletics appointment, a joint UKA/WA appointment or a UKA led appointment? I hope it is not the latter as it signals a possible bias away from the grassroots of our sport and perhaps a lack of understanding of volunteer coaches and local issues. We must have someone who can operate fairly across all levels and stand up for the best interests of Welsh coaches and not dictate down to them from above.

Maybe these concerns are unfounded but I feel they should be aired as a reminder to Welsh Athletics to do what's best for Wales."

30/05/2009The Super 8 at Cardiff looks like fun on 10 June- why it is a final selection meet I am unclear,but if I can get there will do-some interesting athletes competing, if they all turn up .Short Form athletics was my idea years ago-though I am sure others had thought of it,just never published. If I attend I will twitter away.Watch the twitter space.

29/05/2009 WAA Job going-VACANCY: Head of Coaching - apply now!

"Welsh Athletics is seeking to appoint a high-calibre individual to the role of Head of Coaching. This new post has arisen from the restructuring of UK Athletics and a realignment of the coaching structures within Welsh Athletics. It recognises the vital role that coaches play in sustaining and improving athletes at all levels across the country.Reporting to the Chief Executive Officer and working in close partnership with UK Athletics, the successful candidate will shape and implement the coach and athlete development strategy and create and lead a national coaching team who will support talented coaches and their athletes in each event at all levels.

Critical to the success of this strategy is that coaching best practice is promoted at all levels of the sport and not restricted to the elite tier. Effective mentoring, communication, team working, team leadership, planning, organising and strategic thinking skills are essential to achieving the results desired from this high-profile role. We are seeking a person with the vision, energy, passion and commitment to drive the sport forward; a person who recognises and values the contribution that both volunteer and paid coaches make to the on-going success of our sport."

Matt ,Diolch yn fawr iawn (thank you very much)- you have grasped the concept that Welsh Athletics is not about just the elite.

29/05/2009 I have grasped the concept-must be thick. So when the monks said run from the House back to the House that was different than saying run from the House to the Pub-even though distances then same.

29/05/2009 "Just to clarify the 10k road record. Nick ran from a different start to where the finish was (point to point) as opposed to an out and back course. Running the latter means that the rise and fall of the course is equalled out and it avoids a ‘wind assisted’ run, perhaps slightly downhill as could be the case with a point to point course."

If you can understand this, fine-I know now I should stick to Track and Field. A simple 400m track and a field in the middle.

29/05/2009 I have been advised that Nick Rose ran point to Point over 10000m rather than a (i assume) a road that winds. Not sure I really grasp it, but assume like a 200m runner running straight rather than round a bend for the first 200m. So Rose the fastest but Mo will have the GB Road 10k record. Does any one know Nick Rose- like to hear his view?

28/05/2009 Mo Farah is reckoned to have run a Road 10k GB record in 27.50- why was Nick Rose time of 27.34 in New Orleans 1984 never Officially ratified as a British record? I would like to hear if any-one knows. Rose's time is down as the European Record-see IAAF, so would strange if was not also the GB record. Stats are stats after all, much as we all love Mo.

28/05/2009 Lets not forget Ireland " After battling it out at local and regional level, the best of Irish schools’ athletics talent will get set to compete at the highly anticipated All Ireland Schools Track & Field Final on Saturday, 30th May 2009 at Tullamore Harriers Stadium. This yearly event is the culmination of months of tough competition for schools’ athletes throughout Ireland, who have progressed through regional and provincial championships to secure their much sought after place in the All-Ireland final."

It is interesting to note that several young athletes from N.Ireland have elected to run for Ireland (under an agreement with both Countries) rather than GB&NI.

28/05/2009 Carmarthen Harriers should be appluaded for the prompt publication of Club meeting minutes-does any other club bother with publishing minutes of meetings?

28/05/2009 So an athlete who apparently threatened to run for Nigeria if she was not allowed to compete in the Olympics for GB after being banned for missing drug tests has got an MBE- words fail me.

25/05/2009 Has anyone details of "The Super 8 format is also designed to be adopted by schools where the curriculum makes the staging of a full scale athletics matches increasingly difficult. The two-hour format of Super 8 could be adopted for inter-class or inter-school competitions with boys and girls competing together in the same team."

Given this was an idea I floated years ago ( to some anti coments) I would be interested to hear of any sports body(School or local league)that has been approached. It would tie in with my idea that Schools should use Weds for Sports- maybe just the afternoons. I am aware of one Head who has already set aside Weds PM for sport- making sure that the PE team are not involved in school teaching, but available for School team sports.

I don't want credit for ideas, and probably just one of many who think about how to make athletics more attractive to kids- but no doubt this is the way forward.

If the curriculum chamged then the kids who do sports of a weds PM would not have to make up for missed lessons . It is not hard, the Gov just need to think sensibly.

24/05/2009 I have not had the pleasure of meeting Stephen Downes- wrote a nasty article about Linford Christie . Not sure what his problem is, I like Linford- he is a good guy and is doing more for the sport that an an ex-journalist has ever done. Maybe Mr Downes should look at what Linford and his friend Darren are doing for the sport.

UKA need more non-white people as officials.

22/05/2009 The list of athletes I think have got Welsh CG standards so far:

800m Chris Gowell
400H David Greene
400H Rhys Williams
HJ Rob Mitchell
PV Paul Walker
DT Brett Morse

HT Carys Parry
HT Laura Douglas

Corrections appreciated. Not a big team yet. I assume Christian Malcolm is also eligible for both 100m and 200m. Matt Ellias is looking good over 400m flat, so should be there as well- maybe flat not hurdles.

22/05/2009 Well its back to sport, and some thoughts.

Radical, but that's what we need some maverick thinking.Many Sports events happen at the w/e- certainly Athletics which I am involved in.Why not change the School week so that Weds is a designated Sports Day. The Loss of the Academic week could be made up by extending the other school days until 5.00pm, which would suit many working Parents.I am sure this would lead to more kids getting involved in Sport. I am suggesting that leagues etc which often happen on the w/e, which is not convenient for many Parents?Kids would be moved to Weds.

Increased participation in Sport for the good of all- both the sports and the general health of the young.Labour have totally failed in all their talks about increasing sporting activity at school level- this would achieve both participation and the development of talent for our National sports teams.

There might be issues about qualified Officials being available, but this could be resolved.

You can follow this on the forum-please join in, its not just a Welsh thing.

Still find it hard to beleive John Martyn has gone:

My baby girl
She's the sweetest in the whole wide world
She wears her hair way up in a curl
Just to show she's my very own baby girl.

She says: Daddy will you sing for me
Daddy try to swing for me
Daddy play your strings for me
She says: Daddy don't you cry for me
Daddy will you fly for me
Daddy will you try for me.

My little Miss Wisp
She makes my heart feel tight like a fist
A number one girl in most every way
When she pulls my strings, you've got to give her her say.

She says: Daddy will you sing for me
Daddy try to swing for me
Daddy play your strings for me
She says: Daddy don't you cry for me
Daddy will you fly for me
Daddy go and try for me.

My tiny dream
She makes me feel like a cat with her cream
She shines and bubbles like the clearest of streams
She makes me know it's not as bad as it sometimes seems.

She says: Daddy will you sing for me
Daddy try to swing for me
Daddy play your strings for me
She says: Daddy don't you cry for me
Daddy will you fly for me
Daddy go and try for me.

My baby girl
She's just my baby girl.

 

22/05/2009 A NEW Junior Athletics Academy for Yeovil aimed at encouraging young budding sports stars to reach their full potential has opened at Yeovil Athletics Arena.

 

Well its for a Mobile Phone Company , but one of my Favourite songs, and quite appropriate.

19/05/2009 My political bit- I am a member of Lib dems and a supporter of ERS. Life is about more than athletics occasionally No-one has paid me for this !!.

"So it seems we are to get a new speaker. Politicians on both sides of the House are fooling themselves if they think this act alone will right the boat and restore public confidence in our political process.“One Burnt Offering cannot change the culture at Westminster. The politicians, who seem so set on human sacrifice, have steered clear of the more difficult course - and that is genuine and deep reform of the Commons.“The country has been appalled by the behavior of our Honour able Members. And it is the people who must play a part in the solution. The expenses crisis has awakened voters to the need for radical change - that can only come by changing the rules of politics. We want to see a referendum on the voting system at the next general election so we can let the people decide the playing field for politics. The occupants of our safest seats need a reminder that real accountability begins and ends at the ballot box.

“In 1997 a new government came to power promising a new politics and a referendum on electoral reform. Twelve years and two elections later we’ve seen commitments watered down, pledges dropped and the full cost of unrestrained government and unaccountable MP's

“Change means more than a new set of faces and the same old politics. In 2009 Labour has its last chance to deliver. “

19/05/2009 Email received "North East Wales Schools qualifying competition for Welsh Schools/Schools International. Just so happens it clashes with Welsh Seniors/Commonwealth Qualifiers. OK, so it may only affect a few athletes who are talented enough to try the Seniors but what about the officials and timekeepers that it ties up. Do the other regional schools qualifiers clash?"

The point I think is that WAA have stated Athletes must compete at Welsh Seniors this year to be considered for CG 2010. I suspect not a serious threat- Wales will select anyone in 2010 who achieves the standard, and even WAA must accept that many have exams this year and are hardly likely to focus on Sport- well I would hope they would not. Sport is sport, A levels are a bit more important.

17/05/2009 Loughborough International Match result: 1 England 187.5, 2 Loughborough 151, 3 GB Juniors 129.5, 4 British Universities 122, 5 Scotland 114, 6 Wales 73. Results a bit messy, but best I can do.

Wales have a problem- a pathetic performance. WAA really need to work out what they are trying to do to develop the sport- it's going badly wrong at the moment- they have disillusioned many Athletes and the selection process is weird. WAA need to decide whether they want a National Team who compete to win or just funnel a couple through to team GB.

14/05/2009 Dave McKay wins javelin gold as West Cheshire AC bag 72 medals at the Cheshire Track and Field Championships-66.31m

13/05/2009 Added more County Champs-not sure what one's I have missed-let me know. I cannot be bothered with leics site- the most over funded and pointless site on the net-as a club. Now I wonder why that is?

12/05 209 Good to see Jessica Ennis is well on Track " Jessica Ennis delivered the best performance of her career to secure heptathlon victory at the IAAF Combined Events Challenge in Desenzano and underline her medal contender credentials for this summer's World Athletics Championships."

11/05/2009 Just reviewed the various Welsh Regional Champs -North, South, East and West. I did not look to hard at the actual performances, it was the lack of numbers that stuck out- Senior, U20 and U17 with no entries or only one or maybe 2-particularly the female. I will need to have a closer look, but my initial reaction is what is going wrong- is every athlete injured at this age group. The few names I knew hardly had a performance of note. OK it is a difficult time for the U17/U20- exams and all that- my daughter did not compete(not that she really considered entering) due exams and recent illness. But even those who did performed well below what i would have expected.

Something is going really wrong in the sport-not sure what it is exactly, but the sad predictions made several years that London winning the Olympic bid would not encourage grass roots seem to be coming home. Once UKA developed a system that was purely geared to getting Athletes to the London Olympics it was bound to have a negative effect- select a few for academies and favour them , then the remainder feel over-looked or get disenchanted with the sport.

UKA - through various missives have made the sport so demanding on lifestyle that they have isolated the mavericks, the one's who maybe have the talent, but do not fit in with the system. They have made it so clear that to succeed you have to do this and that, work hard, give up everything, no wonder the kids are walking away in droves. They will end up with a small group of over trained athletes who will break down constantly.

Once you take the fun out of sport you take the majority out of it. You end up with a small group hoping to make money- and that is not -or should not -be the ethos of sport. Sadly most in the sport seem interested in what they can make, rather than competing for fun.

10/05/2009 Results of County Champs added-as many as I could find. Please email if you know where the missing are. Thanks.

I actually have an HTC phone-love it, thats how I twitter from meets !!

If I get to them, it's a cool device.

 

 

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OUTDOORS 2009

27/06/09 Welsh Schools CE

16/06/2009 NI Seniors

16/06/2009 Scots Schools Friday and Saturday

15/06/2009 DKB-ISTAF IAAF Golden League, Berlin, Germany 14 June 2009

15/06/2009 Welsh Senior Champs

15/06/2009 Grt Manchester Schools

14/06/2009 North Yorks Schools

14/06/2009 Cheshire Schools

14/06/2009 Northumberland Schools

14/06/2009 Dorset Schools

14/06/2009 Notts Schools

14/06/2009 Staffordshire Schools

10/06/2009 Gerald Codd Girls Div 1

08/07/2009 Welsh U17/20

27/05/2009 Exeter Open(26/5)

25/05/09 Andover Open

25/05/2009 Brewers Games

25/05/2009 CAU Inter Counties

25/05/09 LAL, Neath Boys Div 1, Boys Div 2, Girls Div 1, Girls Div 2

25/05/09 Northern Athletics U15/17

25/05/2009 Midland Counties day 1

25/05/2009 Midland Counties day 2

25/05/2009 SEAA U15/17

25/05/2009 Woodie’s DIY AAI Games – Athlone IT – 17th May 2009

18/05/209 Woodford Green CE

17/05/2009 Loughborough Int

17/05/2009 Welsh OGM 13/5

14/05/2009 Staffordshire County Champs

13/05/2009 Bedforshire Champs

13/05/2009 Devon Champs

13/05/2009 Sussex Champs

13/05/2009 Hampshire Champs

13/05/2009 Gloucestershire Champs

13/05/2009 Hertfordshire Champs

12/05/2009 Norfolk Champs Day 2

11/05/2009 West Wales Champs

11/05/2009 East Wales Champs

11/05/2009 South Wales Champs

11/05/2009 North Wales Champs

11/05/2009 Herts County Champs

11/05/2009 Ulster Schools A

11/05/2009 Ulster Schools C

11/05/2009 Suffolk Champs

11/05/2009 Norfolk Champs

11/05/2009 Essex Champs Day 1 (4/05)

11/05/2009 Essex U15 Pent(4/5)

11/05/2009 Lincs Champs(prov)

11/05/2009 Kent County Champs- Sat and Sunday

10/05/2009 Somerset County Champs

10/05/2009 Cheshire County Champs

10/05/2009 Yorks/Humberside Champs

10/05/2009 Isle of Man Day 1

10/05/2009 Lancashire Champs

10/05/2009 Merseyside Champs

10/05/2009 North East Champs- Track and Field

10/5/2009 Scottish Inter Regions(10/5/09)

10/05/2009 Scottish U15/17 Champs

10/05/2009 Scottish U15/17 Hurdles

10/05/2009 Cornwall Female and Male

10/05/2009 Surrey Track and Field

10/05/2009 Derbyshire County Champs

10/10/2005 Sussex Champs

10/10/2005 Leics Day 1 results

BUCS Outdoor Athletics Championships 2009 - 2-4 May 2009, Bedford International Stadium Mens Results and Female Results

3/5/009 SALCentral Div2 Match 1

4/05/2009 SAL Central Div2 Match 1

02/05/2009 CSSAL Div 3

02/05/2009 CSSAL Div1

01/05/2009 Exeter Open (28/4)

28/04/2009 Welsh LALeague 26/4

23/04/09 Welsh Senior League results 18/4

21/04/2009 Malta Invitational International

19/4/2009 Tipton Games

19/04/2009 Stoke Open

06/04/2009 Jamaican Boys and Girls-(link) And the music is decent.

5/4/09 Havering Mayesbrook Spring Warm up 4 April

5/4/09 Exeter Harriers Evening Open Meeting, Exeter Arena, 31st March 2009

29/03/2009 HAVERING MAYESBROOK AC - SPRING WARM UP MEETING

17/03/2009 Los Realejos European Cup Winter Throwing

INDOORS 2008/09

17/03/2009 NE Indoors CE

15/03/3009 British Universities Indoor Champs- Male and Female.

14/03/3009 British Masters Indoor Champs

08/03/2009 U17 & U15 INDOOR COMBINED EVENTS CHAMPIONSHIPS Saturday, 7 March 2009-U17W.

U17M

U15G

U15B

08/03/2009 Euro Champs Day 1, Day 2, Day 3

03/03/3009 Sydney Classic results

01/03/2009 Herts Indoor Champs

25/02/2009 Scottish CE Champs

22/02/2009 Celtic Cup-Seniors/U20

22/02/09 U16 Celtic Schools International

21/02/09 Scottish Masters

21/02/2009 Birmingham Grand Prix results

20/02/09 UWIC GP3(15/2/09)

18/02/2009 Scottish U15/13 Champs

18/2/2009 Scottish U17/20 Champs

16/02/2009 Essex Indoors

16/02/2009 Kent Indoor Champs Sun

16/02/2009 Kent Indoor Champs-Sat

15/02/2009 Euro Trials Sheffield Day 1,2

10/02/2009 NI Senior Odyssey Champs

09/02/2009 WAA U13/15 Champs

07/02/2009 Welsh U17/20( only U20W 400m missing)

5/02/2009 Scottish Seniors and Relays

4/02/2009 Vienna Indoor Classic

2/02/2009 Birmingham Games results

31/10/2009 Aviva International

24/01/2009 Welsh Senior Champs

24/10/2009 NI HPS Field(17/1)

23/01/2009 NEAA Champs-Sen/U20

23/01/2009 Scottish Seniors(Closed)

23/01/2009 DM HAll Distict Sat

23/01/2009 DM HAll District Sun

3/01/2009 NI Results from Indoor Competition – HPC Jordanstown

23/01/09 West Wales Indoor Champs

20/01/09 Reykjavík International Games (18/1)

17/01/2009 SEAA Indoor Champs-all ages(Excel Spreadsheet)

17/01/2009 Scottish Sen Ind Champs

17/01/2009 Scottish District Ind Champs(Sat)

14/01/2009 SEAA Indoor Champs Male

14/01/2009 SEAA Indoor Champs Female

14/01/2009 SEAA Indorr U15/17 CE

13/01/2009 NECAA Champs Track

13/01/2009 NECAA Champs Field

13/10/2009 England AA CE SM

13/10/2009 England AA CE SW

13/10/2009 England AA CE U20M

13/10/2009 England AA CE U20W

11/01/2009 UWIC GP, Cardiff

11/01/2009 SW England U15/17 Indoors

11/01/209 SAIL Indoor-Afternoon (4/11/09)

28/12/2008 Scots Yuletide Meet(ext)

14/12/2008 UWIC GP

7/12/08 Data Connection Open Indoor Meeting

14/12/2008 Schools CE Int

14/12/08 Scottish Athletics Indoor League (Match 1)

03/12/08 Grangemouth Stadium Indoor Open Graded Meeting

11/11/08 Welsh U13/15 CE (9/11)

29/10/08 Scottish Universities 'Freshers' Indoor Track and Field Match